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Ken Kurtz's avatar

So far it hasn’t been much of an issue with my investing experience, but another open-ended fee in nearly every offering is that the “Company” has the right to be reimbursed for all out-of-pocket expenses. Furthermore, some allow the GP to make loans to the company at rates I’ve seen as high as 12% to cover expenses. In one of my deals there was over $3,000 in meal and entertainment costs. Didn’t affect the bottom line much, but it’s still a fly in the ointment. If the syndicator has 50 properties and is doing this, they are eating well.

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Mike Fritz's avatar

Sometimes, but I was referring more to a typical institutional development JV. So, not so much pure "pref" but rather a pari passu first hurdle.

So: First, to the members on a pari passu and pro rata basis until Investor Member has received distributions sufficient for it to achieve an IRR of 10%;

Second, (i) 80% to the Members on a pari passu and pro rata basis and (ii) 20% to Sponsor Member, until Investor member has received aggregate distributions sufficient for it to achieve an IRR of 13.5;

third...(70/30)...

I have two deals on my desk where one has an 11% first hurdle and the other a12%. Granted, these deals are not garden style multifamly developments but rather ground up student housing and office to resi conversion with institutional LPs. So, a bit more risky. I suppose it might be an apples to oranges comparison?

The great thing about this space is that everything is pretty much customizable. I have seen deals similar to what you described but some people have referred to them as "structured equity." These deals mirror rights, remedies, and preferences of customary pref equity, but have a back end profit share so it is more like a participating preferred. Sometimes this helps convincing Freddie/Fannie that the equity truly is "soft pay" pref and not the dreaded "hard pay preferred equity."

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